Will “will” or “shall” (to quote the English version of the movie) in the movies Pride and Prejudice
Why do people use the terms “shall”
- and “will”? Thanks for
answering. The language seems to be something. I am watching and reading the episode of Pride and Prejudice.
- Why does Kitty use “will” in the first sentence and shall in the second?
Is the extra implication of shall “to make her do”? - Why does Lydia say, “… You will tell her?” Why is ” would be used here?
KITTY: Lydia has torn up my bonnet and made it up new and says she will wear it to church. Tell her not you shall not!
I shall wear it, I beg you would tell her so, for it’s my own work. I work hard with a woman like her, they all like me, but never like me anymore and she has left me.
What are some of the best-known facts about the human race?
Jane Austen’s style vs Today’s style:
she shall not -> > -> > she should
not I shall -> > wear it -> > I will wear
it
- Was ‘will’ in the first sentence a standard usage? In the second sentence,’shall’ is used to convey order, condition, and determination. What is to be said but in the literal sense: It says: “Tell her she must not.”
Shall in The Free Dictionary: b.
Soll : c. Shall in The Free Dictionary (English edition)., c. Shall in The Free Dictionary : f. You shall leave Now. An order,
- promise, requirement, or determination.
- He shall answer for his misdeeds.
- The penalty shall not exceed two years to the fullest extent in question.
- How do you get a response of ‘I beg you to tell her, will you tell her’, ‘would you tell her’ and ‘could you tell her’?
What are your views on different types of blogs or projects?
Jane Austen’s style vs Today’s style:
she shall not -> > -> > she should
not I shall -> > wear it -> > I will wear
it
How do I use “shall” versus “will” in my first post? Isn’t it complicated? I shall/you will used to be the standard construction for the future tense of to be, while I will/you shall was used for express determination or certainty. Both constructions have changed since Austen’s time, at least for common usage, especially in American English, where must has pretty much dropped out of use. Even a 50 year old “I shall” was the recommended future tense for high school grammar books and of all I know still is. Where the usage has been blurred, in part because of the difficulty in distinguishing prediction from intent. What’s the difference between ‘I really intend to be there in 5 minutes’ and ‘My arrival will occur within 5 minutes’? I shall have been falling into disuse since the 60s, as shown in https://book.google.com/ngrams/graph? Content=I+shall%2CI+will&year_start=1800&year_end=2000&corpus=15&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t%3B%2CI%20shall%3B%2Cc0%3B.t1%3B%2CI%20will%3B%2Cc0, although that as evidenced by the long slow decline since 1800.
Was Lydia really saying the Kitty to bear a message? “For one little thing (is the usual Austen use) I’d be in your debt if I ask a girl to go and say that, “would you tell her so” to “you
tell her so”)).
- Was ‘will’ in the first sentence a standard usage? In the second sentence,’shall’ is used to convey order, condition, and determination. What is to be said but in the literal sense: It says: “Tell her she must not.”
Shall in The Free Dictionary: b.
Soll : c. Shall in The Free Dictionary (English edition)., c. Shall in The Free Dictionary : f. You shall leave Now. An order,
- promise, requirement, or determination.
- He shall answer for his misdeeds.
- The penalty shall not exceed two years to the fullest extent in question.
- How do you get a response of ‘I beg you to tell her, will you tell her’, ‘would you tell her’ and ‘could you tell her’?
What are your views on different types of blogs or projects?
How do I use “shall” versus “will” in my first post? Isn’t it complicated? I shall/you will used to be the standard construction for the future tense of to be, while I will/you shall was used for express determination or certainty. Both constructions have changed since Austen’s time, at least for common usage, especially in American English, where must has pretty much dropped out of use. Even a 50 year old “I shall” was the recommended future tense for high school grammar books and of all I know still is. Where the usage has been blurred, in part because of the difficulty in distinguishing prediction from intent. What’s the difference between ‘I really intend to be there in 5 minutes’ and ‘My arrival will occur within 5 minutes’? I shall have been falling into disuse since the 60s, as shown in https://book.google.com/ngrams/graph? Content=I+shall%2CI+will&year_start=1800&year_end=2000&corpus=15&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t%3B%2CI%20shall%3B%2Cc0%3B.t1%3B%2CI%20will%3B%2Cc0, although that as evidenced by the long slow decline since 1800.
Was Lydia really saying the Kitty to bear a message? “For one little thing (is the usual Austen use) I’d be in your debt if I ask a girl to go and say that, “would you tell her so” to “you
tell her so”)).
- Was ‘will’ in the first sentence a standard usage? In the second sentence,’shall’ is used to convey order, condition, and determination. What is to be said but in the literal sense: It says: “Tell her she must not.”
Shall in The Free Dictionary: b.
Soll : c. Shall in The Free Dictionary (English edition)., c. Shall in The Free Dictionary : f. You shall leave Now. An order,
- promise, requirement, or determination.
- He shall answer for his misdeeds.
- The penalty shall not exceed two years to the fullest extent in question.
- How do you get a response of ‘I beg you to tell her, will you tell her’, ‘would you tell her’ and ‘could you tell her’?
What are your views on different types of blogs or projects?
- Was ‘will’ in the first sentence a standard usage? In the second sentence,’shall’ is used to convey order, condition, and determination. What is to be said but in the literal sense: It says: “Tell her she must not.”
Shall in The Free Dictionary: b.
Soll : c. Shall in The Free Dictionary (English edition)., c. Shall in The Free Dictionary : f. You shall leave Now. An order,
- promise, requirement, or determination.
- He shall answer for his misdeeds.
- The penalty shall not exceed two years to the fullest extent in question.
- How do you get a response of ‘I beg you to tell her, will you tell her’, ‘would you tell her’ and ‘could you tell her’?
What are your views on different types of blogs or projects?
- Was ‘will’ in the first sentence a standard usage? In the second sentence,’shall’ is used to convey order, condition, and determination. What is to be said but in the literal sense: It says: “Tell her she must not.”
Shall in The Free Dictionary: b.
Soll : c. Shall in The Free Dictionary (English edition)., c. Shall in The Free Dictionary : f. You shall leave Now. An order,
- promise, requirement, or determination.
- He shall answer for his misdeeds.
- The penalty shall not exceed two years to the fullest extent in question.
- How do you get a response of ‘I beg you to tell her, will you tell her’, ‘would you tell her’ and ‘could you tell her’?
What are your views on different types of blogs or projects?
