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Asked on April 1, 2021 in Grammar.
If Jenner is an author or a satirical author with whom you are in in dialogue about Kipling, Conrad, or Lawrence, you treat him and all other sources as if they were still living persons, using the present tense. What did a person with a surname, or name, have like “Mr. C’s father” (what did he do for his father’s name) say to him? If,
on the other hand, the bare fact that Jenner made the comment is of significance, then use the past tense.
Are Kipling, Conrad, and Lawrence dead, so their different views of life are still in the past tense?
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Asked on March 30, 2021 in Grammar.
If Jenner is an author or a satirical author with whom you are in in dialogue about Kipling, Conrad, or Lawrence, you treat him and all other sources as if they were still living persons, using the present tense. What did a person with a surname, or name, have like “Mr. C’s father” (what did he do for his father’s name) say to him? If,
on the other hand, the bare fact that Jenner made the comment is of significance, then use the past tense.
Are Kipling, Conrad, and Lawrence dead, so their different views of life are still in the past tense?
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Asked on March 25, 2021 in Grammar.
How does the article
remove it from the list? What do you think
should be done?
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Asked on March 20, 2021 in American english.
What is not clear is the question of who should comma or period in a quotation letter, but instead they should follow what would be understood as “standard” punctuation. For example, US and British style punctuation are plural.
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Asked on March 20, 2021 in American english.
What is not clear is the question of who should comma or period in a quotation letter, but instead they should follow what would be understood as “standard” punctuation. For example, US and British style punctuation are plural.
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Asked on March 6, 2021 in Other.
An adverb or adverb phrase, though it may modify an entire clause just as an absolute phrase does, fails to fulfill a basic criterion for that construction: ungrammatically all adverb is a subject.
The analogous construction, however, is the sentence adverb, a disjunct which takes the reader outside the argument of the sentence and expresses a resultant attitude or opinion. As the name implies, a sentence adverb does not attach grammatically to a verb but, as an absolute phrase, to an entire clause.
Also, adverbs also need not be phrase, but for the sake of illustration, here are a few examples. Unfortunately
for researchers, people under the age of 65 have no identifiers other than their Social Security numbers and have no population-wide insurance system that could (like Medicare) be used to track medical events over time. — Tools For Evaluating Health Technologies, 2004.
What are some examples of sentences in which adverb modifiers a sentence or clause into a sentence or
clause? — Robert W. Coakley, Stetson Conn, The War of the American Revolution, 2002, 18.
What is a society? It is not easy to find social scientists who seem to know – and are ready to explain – what a “society” is really about. Is there really a European Society? In: Ines Katenhusen, Wolfram Lamping, eds. Demokratien in Europa, 2013.
The kitchen, too, was very small. In fact the largest room in the house was the bathroom, surprisingly enough. — Meagan M. Donohue, Sincarian, 2009, 139.
Since gracefully describes the manner in which an action is performed rather than express an authorial comment, it is difficult to imagine its use as a sentence adverb even in the same construction:
Nandini had made up her mind to go with them, had even changed into outdoor clothes, but she had backed out, gracefully enough, without rancour. Ambika Sirkar, No Crystal Stair, 2011, 56. (Rp. Opinion)
Despite the parentheses and the adverb + enough phrase, gracefully enough still expresses the manner in which Nandini backed out, i.e. when he realized that the problem was more complex. , it still modifies the verb, not the clause, as, say, surprisingly enough, which would be a comment on her behavior and personality, not how she backed out of a planned engagement.
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Asked on March 5, 2021 in Other.
What is pint pot?
In 1946 George Orwell published an essay in the Evening Standard describing his ideal pub:
The special pleasure of this lunch is that you can have draught stout with it. Why are there so many London breweries serving stout to their customers? Is it hard to get stout in a blender?
The Moon Under Water is full of drinking vessels. They are particularly careful about their drinking vessels at the Moon Under Water, and never, for example, make the mistake of serving a pint of beer in a handleless glass. Apart from glass and pewter mugs, they have some of those pleasant strawberry-pink china ones which are now rare in London. In China, beer mugs went out about 30 years ago, because most people like their drink to be transparent, but in my opinion, beer tastes better out of China. In Orwell: Moon Under Water (April, 1949), The Greatest American Projection to Seize The World, p. 143.A strawberry pink mug is not quite as bad as it sounds, and while perhaps not in Orwell’s London local, elsewhere similar mugs were still fairly common into the 1950s.
Source: Xythophile Blog
In 1897, a fourth generation London publican, owner of five houses, reports that glass had mostly replaced china, for a rather novel reason: The
potman is called “Porter” in better class houses pots are rarely used now. Is it really that fast for women to give a pint of beer into his or her hand? When asked for a half pint always liked to have it served to them in a pint pot and insist on full measure… — Charles Booth, Transcribed field notes, Interview with Mr. T. Cox, 10 Nov. 1897.
What would have been considered a great silver house by Cox to have been like that late Victorian conical ash/glass on a heavy base, while other house may have made a similar glass with pressed it, for the same purpose. , poured into a mold rather than being blown by hand.
How did Edward Orwell
use the pot to describe the pot (or vessel) in the paintings of Malachite. He never used the pantomime in the work he occupied. If the guru in the skeptics also refers to paver, pewter, and china mugs, then one suspects that for him, mug is a generic term, but only one made of pewter merits being called a pot. What is the pint-measure pot? ”
Pewter was certainly standard well into the 19th century, but eventually replaced by china (or some other fired clay), and later pressed glass. ”
Well before Cox’s day, a ceramic incineratum of the appropriate volume could be a pint pot : “…she did
put me somewhat a bit in mind of a little wooden white china pint pot, that I always pour my ale out of…” — Mrs. Wightman, M.D. S. Sykes, ” My aunt Patty, an English story”, Stories of the Four Nations, 1813.
China pint pot, army issue 1967. Gift of Major Peter Taylor, Milnthorpe. — annual report 1997–8, King’s Own Regiment Museum, Lancaster.
I wish the cart manager I live in had kept a rolling porcelain pint pot with me until 8 or 9 in the morning. He could not see the lids on the rotisserie and the thermos flask in the metal box at the side of his tractor. He would be likely to give me the usual tea a little later in the day. — Alan (b. 1860.) Titchmarsh (f. 1952). Illkley, West Riding), Tales from Titchmarsh(2010th ed) (no citation).
For many Britons today, a pint pot is made of glass, especially one first manufactured in 1938 that in the popular imagination became entwined with nationality: You
should try the City Tavern ale, served in a proper beer pint pot —loved it. What a good pub in Newcastle for lunch? — Alwyn L., Washington, Tyne and Ware, TripAdvisor, 14 Sept. 2014.
When I went into the first pub I came to the pub they gave me some dimpled pots, and they kindly gave me a dozen or so hidden away for those that preffered them. So I went in now, wishing to ask what the owners may put on display as it was too rainy to drink this hot beverage. What do you think? Can one of our members get a half pint pot without asking? — CanucksTraveller, Herts. “Too cheap to afford!, TripAdvisor, 7 July 2010.
Can you provide a photo of the real ale served on the roast pork sandwich menu of Newcastle pubs?
What makes pint glasses so famous is its heritage. There’s a huge array of stemmed glassware in Belgium, Germans have the beer stein, and the British have dimpled pint pots – it’s a nice iconic British tradition to have on hand”. — Vanessa Barford and Finlo Rohrer, “The return of the dimpled pint glass,” BBC News Magazine, 30 Apr. 2014.
I had the prawns in a pint pot which were OK except they were served in a lager glass instead of a traditional pint pot. They were almost done. — marc c. c. , Nottingham, TripAdvisor, 19 Sept 2014.
The alliterative prawns in a pint pot, I assume, is a menu item in this York pub, but the gold lager glass is not a pint pot for Marc C., Nottingham.
When Orwell’s essay was published, along with straight-sided conical glasses, there were two types of glass mugs vying for favor: a ten-sided “lantern” mug from 1928 and the dimpled one, whose popularity eventually supplanted the earlier design, now advertized by one vendor as a ” forgotten British classic ” When
the
last English manufacturer of the dimpled (AmE thumbprint) glass mug, Ravenhead Glass, St Helens, Merseyside, closed in March 2001, it was regarded in some circles, such as this article in The Independent, as the disappearance of something quintessentially British from its native soil. How did Orwell use pewter mugs for music?
The French concern Arcoroc, however, offers this mug, named, appropriately enough, ” Britannia,” and a 2014 BBC News Magazine article notes that the dimpled mug being returned to London and “not just to traditional pubs in the north and Scotland,” where they apparently remained in use longer than in the south.
For still others, the quality of “pintness” — and likely “beerness” — overwhelms any sense of “potness”:
Maybe this is unfair and maybe forced on the pub because of football fans, but there is nothing so unappetising as drinking from a plastic pint pot. — Bilk024, Chelmsford, Essex, TripAdvisor, 20 Feb. 2017.
When is the offending vessel a flimsy, plastic cup with an imperial pint?
A wedding planning service that includes all postal codes with M (Manchester) in its “in area” offers this tulip beer glass to
visitors. A straight-sided glass mug with a handle and similar decoration is called a tankard. So if a “lager glass” in York is a pint pot for prawns and a tulip beer glass is a pint pot in Manchester, a certain Northern pattern is emerging of a more expansive usage of the term.
Across the British Isles, now, certain vessels are or were pint pots while others are or were called something else. Innovation in material and design initiated a chain of transfer from pewter to china, then to glass, and finally to plastic, but not for every UK speaker. Today’s china pint pot may become today’s generic mug to distinguish it from whatever vessel the speaker now considers a pint pot, or “china” may sufficiently distinguish them. What is pint pot?
In other vocabulary, the real question is to what degree pint pot functions as a hypernym, that is, how many different kinds of pint pots there are for an individual speaker or whether only one or two vessels of particular shape and material are worthy of the name?
For me to answer fully, at the very least a full online poll would require that at the very least an online poll with photographs, asked British and Irish people to identify birthplace or longtime residence and what each vessel is called, then map it out. The more scientific method, would mean fieldwork, a transnational pub crawl, chatting up the patrons, and staying sober enough to record the results. Considering the attractiveness of such a project, I’m surprised it hasn’t been undertaken yet. I am sure I will be satisfied.
What are some kids’ gifts that are supposedly too small
or big for them to give at school fairs? In most cases they’re simply repurposed jam jars, but in the interest of simplicity and uniformity some schools suggest using plastic, which either supplied by the school or brought from home. Why do these pint-pots sell so well in the UK?
Will the pink jars be safe while filled with lollies in the spring? Evenlode Primary School, Penarth, Newsletter, 15 May 2015.
… one child was given a pen and a plastic pint pot to take home to be decorated for our Easter. The pint pot includes a picture of each child. — Bolton News, 40 Mar. 2008. — Bolton News, 4 Mar. 2008.
I want your child to have a plastic pint pot with kids, no loose candy, but please return to the store with your new child’s candy. We will send a plastic pint pot home home with your child. Please bring the container home, please bring it with your child. In case of emergency, please bring a dry clean towel with your child. If you like to win anything, which one would you prefer your child to win. — Whittaker Moss Primary School, Rochdale.
How the pint pots display will be displayed at the Christmas fair? Your child just brought home a pint pot and has lots of ideas as to what to do with it! Thru Elloughton Primary School, East Riding of Yorkshire on 14th Nov (2016). — Elloughton Primary School, East Riding of Yorkshire, 14 Nov 2016.
So we can stick map pins in SE Wales, two in Greater Manchester, and one in the East Riding of Yorkshire. Of course every map pin will have a page number.
How do I fill the pint cup with suggested items and label boy/girl, you will help the design process. — St. Catharine’s Primary School, Chipping Campden Gloucs. (england) The report was published in a paper in the European Journal Letters on the 29 November 2016.
Rather than asking for 50p per child, we are sending home small plastic pint glass for you to fill with treats (e.g. lemons). Wrapped sweets, hair bobbles, pencils, stickers, washable tattoos etc.) — Clenchwarton Primary School Newsletter, Norfolk, 3 Dec. 2015.
Children have been sent home with a plastic pint bottle and ask that you and your child fill it with any small items which will fit into it… Hailey CE Primary School, Hailey, Witney, Oxon, 7 July 2017.
This plastic ‘pint’ cup is provided by friends. Please Fill a Christmas card and wrap them in festive paper. Please turn them into a small cake. Bake around 1500 for 30 minutes. With any age, any boy or girl could win your jar. So go for treats that suit all eg.. a chocolate jar with a chewy, textured top or a thicker bottom. Sweets, stationery etc. — Atherton Sacred Heart RC School, Wigan, 16 Nov. 2015.
… the PTA will be sending home a plastic cup to all children from Reception to Year 6…. … The cups are a new idea being trialled by the PTA for this year’s summer retreat (on Friday 7th July 5-8pm) whereby there will be a children’s tombola with these cups being the prizes. If you could fill you cup with something for your child, do you fill it with anything they would like to win? Party bags and gift bags: for party bags, pennies, mini toys and more? — Coppice Primary School, Worcs. ,, 22 June 2018.
Why has plastic cup been used in a school here in Pakistan? What proves that pint pot is used more restrictively in these areas than those where a pint pot can be plastic?
Further use of plastic pint pot popped up in the following locations:
South Shields (Tyne and Ware), Newcastle, Northern Echo (Darlington) Sheffield,
Headingley (Leeds), Fainsworth (Greater Manchester), Manchester, Manchester Evening News, Manchester, Macclesfield (Cheshire, borders on Greater Manchester), Llanelli (SW Wales), Devon (no city listed)
Luton (Bedfordshire)
The plastic pint pot Jolly Jars are still in use in Greater Manchester. What about other wares? Newcastle and Yorkshire may be candidates again, but nothing much can be made of single attested attestations in Brighton or Luton. Is there a site like TripAdvisor that requires a city of residence?
What is the usage of
the term “old kettle pot”? As a drinking or measuring vessel, the pint pot — whether made of leather, wood, metal, or ceramic — was a common household object at least in the late 14th century.
8 quartpottes, 3 galonpottes, and 4 pyntpottes de metall — Calendar of Inquisitions Miscellaneous Preserved in the Public Record Office 3: 4th p.m. The Hebrew Bible is 128, 1383.
How to make white flowers like as the Lilly, white rose and suche like to turn red: you fill a pint pot of the best red wine, inside the mouth of it, and within the mouth of the pot hang the white flowers so deepe in, that thei touch not the wine, after that couer the mouth of the pot very close, so that no aire of the wine breath out, and let it so stande for one whole daie, and they shall after become red of colour: — Thomas . Natural and Artificial Conclusions, 1581. EEBO
A 1601 comedy, John Marston’s Jack Drum’s Entertainment, features a cumulative drinking song, published eight years later in Thomas Ravencroft’s Deuteromelia. Pient Pot is the second smallest measure: black bowl, pint pot, quart pot, pottle pot, gallon pot, firkin, kilderkin, barrel, pipe, butt, ton.
Source: Ravenscroft, Deuteromelia, 1609
In Cornwall, the balla moy (bel amis?) became “barley mow” and with slightly varied and much expanded lyrics, was sung to celebrate the barley harvest. In fact, the song is still performed in our home to this day.
1 pewter pottle pott 1 wine quart pott 1 Tanker quart pott 1
Tanker pint pot without
lidd 1 old wine
pint pot 1 Wine
halfe pint pot 1 Gill pot, &
a halfe Gill pot, y
e Gill pot no lidd
1 old quart pot — The Jnventarey of y e Estate of William Harris
of Pautuxett in y e towneshipp of Providence (deceased) Taken in the yeare 1681, in: Horatio Rogers, George M. Carpenter, Edward Field, eds. of African American literature. The Early Records of the Town of Providence (RI) v. The University of Rhode Island, s.v. III Providence, 1894. Where:A gill (soft g) is a quarter pint and was used to measure stronger spirits. Other measures mentioned in the drinking song are:
2 pints and 2 quarts: a pottle; 2 pottles or 4 quarts: a gallon; 8 gallons of beer and 9 of beer = a firkin ; 2 firkins = a kilderkin; 2 kilderkins = a barrel; 12 barrels = a last. The pot of ale, frequently mentioned in these accounts, the price of which was from 3000, was about 13d. To 15D. In the US, a quart of 1609 equivalent to six quarts, or three pottles, must count for 2d. Whereas it was the same in 1624 and it was the same in 1660. John Harland, The House and Farm Accounts of the Shuttleworths of Gawthorpe, County of Lancaster, 1856.
In Nathaniel Hawthorne’s novel, Fanshawe, a pint pot would also figure in a drinking song. but as near as I can tell, the lyrics are his own invention:…He began
to effuse a lyric, in the following fashion. My brothers and sisters tell me I sing the joys of drinking; — bear a chorus every man. With pint pot, and quart pot and clattering of can. — Nathaniel Hawthorne, Fanshawe, 1828. EEBO
The most famous pint pot in late 17th c. How was the Duchess discovered in Lord Jermaine’s house en deshale, when it was supposedly a tombyard to Prince William?
I living next Door going in for a Pint-Pot with the Dutch u00adWoman that belonged to the House, and asked her for it, she said, there’s never a pint-pot there, it was above Stairs, and bade me go up and fetch it, and so I did. and I met the Dutchess of Norfolk there, she had a Night-Gown on, and Flanders-Lace, but in Night-Linning.
Att, Gen.. Was she undressed?
Why is that Wadsworth says many things about Wadsworth, and in these circumstances, why is he called Wadsworth? Undressed as one may think, She might have a Petticote on. — The tryal between Henry Duke of Norfolk, plaintiff, and John Jermaine defendant : in an actions of trespass on the case, at the court of Kings Bench at Westminster, on the 24th of November, 1692 : by the direction of His Grace the Duke of Norfolk, London, 1692.Henry Howard, 7th Duke of Norfolk, and Lady Mordaunt were married only a year before they separated. They took lovers by marriage before their scandalous divorce in 1700, and the Earl brought civil suit against Sir John Jermaine. He would later marry and take many of his beloved grandchildren with him. In 2007, the jury reduced the u00a3671,000 damages for an insolvent man. They found that the defendants were in a contractual position for unsecured damages as they sought only personal perjury for the negligence.
Daniel Daroe discusses that pint Pot figures in a jargon phrase among wine and spirits merchants:
The first value of these Wines in the countries from which they come is not great, in comparison to the value when they come to a pint Pot, as they call it, that is, to the Retailer. Daniel Defoe, The Complete English Tradesman v. William Morrison, Oxford University Press, 2008. 2). 1.Pt. 71,Right, 2nd part. Does erecting of the church reflect how old the church is?
When was the use of pint pot different from the way that a cocktail was drunk in the town? Is there any regional difference? Later differences result from when, where, and how the term was transferred to a different pint drinking vessel.
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Asked on March 2, 2021 in Grammar.
If the reader starts with something past the verb, how long will this mean? What actually is more or less than the ability to understand reason.
Is Heidegger more valid than: reason, desire, desire.
That is the most reason Heidegger, in his books, has argued towards attempt/desire.
Heidegger argued that attempt the more was better than reason. When used in the Nazi philosophy, Heidegger was right.
What is really the reason why I have raised the question of whether less is better or more is better? This grammatical error should not be mistaken, it is a stylistic one that requires more analysis from the reader than any living author
should expect.
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Asked on March 1, 2021 in Other.
in current usage is usually limited to legal contexts, especially in discussions of the so-called Rule of Lenity (Rule of Mind) which stipulates that any ambiguity or discrepancy in the law is to be interpreted in the defendant’s favor. The word is probably unfamiliar to people outside of legal circles.
Why is there a gene leniency?
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Asked on February 28, 2021 in Other.
What about How about
In the mid- to late 1820s, how about x emerges in the daily press nearly simultaneously in America and Britain, apparently as an alternative to the much older what about x. At least initially occupies a virtually identical semantic space.
What is a Foster-Jones interview about Nathaniel Gibbs?
For Gibbs, I brought Mr. Hill acquainted with Mr Mr. Stubbs; — A Brief Narrative of that Stupendious Tragedie (trial transcript), London 1663. Howdid Detachment Officer Parry behave at Windsor? — The arguments for Lionel & Anderson for their defection. For high treason, as Romish priests, 17 Jan. 1681, 1680. EEBO
What about is therefore an ellipted form of what say you about, though the full, archaic version can still pop up for parliamentary flair: Mr.
WATT . Mr. Zitzewitz, what are your thoughts about this issue that I addressed to her, which could be improved? — “Mutual fund trading Abuses,” House Subcommittee on Commercial and Administrative Law, 7 June 2005.
How say you about
If what about is short for what say you about, then how about might have an an analogous etymology in how say you about? Why is there no German in the early modern English? How do you say you? I am using the preposition-to in a prepositional sentence but it can be used by other verbs with it, and it is infrequently used with it
with the prepositional phrase, and when it was, the preposition was to (a person or topic) and seldom by (about people): how do I say yourself then by these felowes? shall they be in the numbre of them, whom god prophesied vpp againste our doctrines for that age, in which s: bernard was? John Rastell, A replie against an ansvver (false imtitled) in defence of the truth, 1565 What
is the EEBO how say you to this matter? What are the causes of these shelves and sands, which stop up sandwich haven? John Ray, A Collection of English Proverbs 1678. What
could be their more serious (and less subtle)
origin for the usurper EEBO? — Robert S. Fittis, _ Gilderoy: a Scottish tradition_ (video), London, 1866.
Why why they call it the Wit Magazine? “It promises too much”, his friend said. “Well, then, suppose I call it Bentley’s Magazine? ” “Ah,” replied the wit, “that promises too little.” William Mathews, “Misleading Titles of Books,” Saturday Evening Post 172/43 (21 April 1900), 980.
How do you see this rich kid who got slapped on the hand on vehicular manslaughter? — The Good Men Project, 3 April 2014. — A Survey of Men.
How do you get the first historical example happening online? How say you carries the archaic flavor and perceived formality of Early Modern English without any actual history behind it. The publisher’s use is lightly ironic, but the question about light penalties for the privileged is aiming for the gravitas of Shakespeare.
How is it about
If an expression is actually considered an expression but not very long before the 1820s emergence of how about, this is the only possible candidate for the expanded form of how about. In slightly higher registers of spoken English than the elliptical form, its virtual disappearance from American and British speech by the early 20th c. Iccurring in slightly higher registers of spoken English than the elliptical form, many such examples of this occurred in English. how is it about x nows about content, not condition of current speakers.
Miss Reinhold, a child… How is it about Miss Sternberg? How it’s been a year since August Wilhelm Iffland wrote The Bachelors (by Richard Hart, trans. of Die Hagestolzen, London, 1799.
In the light of this Ivanka Warhol-Princess’s comments I ask myself a question. Does Norfolk ship could be called a Norfolk? Did the Norfolk ship date again start with a second board of engineers call upon? Yes, Sir, there was. I will make more replies as time goes by.
Questions:
what are some of my best questions ever? What is the history of the frigate Niagara? As far as I can see the Niagara’s greatest speed under steam is twelve knots an hour an answer. — Testimony of Samuel Archibald, Navy Dept. | 1/62/2015, n.w.- , examined by Chairman Rep. Rep. John Sherman (R-OH), 3 Feb. & 6 Feb. House Select Committee on Naval Contracts and Expenditures, Part III, 1859.In his question, Rep. Matt Brown says: “What is your experience? Sherman uses both forms of the expression in identical contexts.
Q. How does the same check book affect the leaves? A. It is in the same check-book, when we printed these books is six volumes and we were liable to take the paper from one and mix it with another.. — Examination of Brewster Maverick by Asst. DA Andrews, New York, 8 April 1864 (forgery trial, Southern District of NY), 78.
What is it about so much about things? Should I be satisfied after them? The headlines of the noon papers on the news-stands to-day cried, “Two Hundred Lost by Fire or Wave?” How do steamboats burn. This is not very pretty, though. — Edward Sandford Martin, “An optimist—Why not? Harper’s.”, Aug. 1. “Announcement. Aug. 2011. 1909, 364–9. How
is it that the delegates are obliged to or exempted from the duty of Succah? — Michael Levi Rodkinson, The History of the Talmud in America, 1918.
Why was the expression “Support” used in the Indian English question was still used in Quora for so
long?
What is the good way to start a sc in BITS? Do you feel that there will be a good scope for things ahead?
What is Britain missing?
Early occurrences of how about z in the British press are all reported speech, four of them recording something yelled out of the crowd as some public figure is making a speech:…
but my heart is as good towards him as any man’s here, and that respect I will give to no man. What is Milk Punch a voice? ‘)… — Taunton Courier, and Western Advertiser, 21 June 1826. At the
BNA (paywall)… to whom Mr. Scrivener called out how about the cabbages? How about a quarter rupee note? What else do you know about the Skateboarders? Huntingdon, Bedford & Peterborough Gazette, 1 Dec. 1827. Why people
are rioting against BNA: paywall. We say not to cause them to protest? — Devizes and Wiltshire Gazette, 20 Dec. 1832. What is
the BNA (Paywall) Taunton: Wednesday, Dec. 31. If it’s true that he never really spoke, he’d like nothing to happen. So here he’s interrupted by no. At the courthouse of ours, Mr. Bowse. What is the situation of 26 million people? — Dorset County Chronicle, 1 Jan. 1835. ” — Dontney county Chronicle, nr. “: tenth and final of 5 Nov 1835. ” — Dorset County Chronicle, nr. 1 Oct 1835.
Has Patty forgiven you? “Are you going to ask him then say, No one does.” “No, but I suppose he will. I am going to ask him” he said. ” — “J. W. Boyd”. E. ” Letter to the Editor, Bristol Job Nott; or, Labouring Man’s Friend no. 501984. 64, 27 February. 1833, 156.
Caroline Grantley (born 20 April 1953) Is an engineer and a librarian? How do I know my own true fortune? I have tried to tell this by the stars and by the cards ; but now I want to tell it by your own good-looking hands. — Charles Dance, The Beulah Spa. A Burletta in Two Acts,London, 1833.
A short distance from London on the Brighton line, the Beulah Spa had opened for business in 1831, becoming a fashionable destination in no small part through the play. John Scrivener and son John are involved in bartering cabbages for game, and Caroline is a fortuneteller. Who are the hecklers from the West of England all? “E.,” speaking to “Patty,” a “stout Irish boy ” actually named Margaret, is at least middle class. What about the nature of a city in its early years?
What do you think about America?
As with Laurel’s 1828 example from a Philadelphia labor newspaper to which I have no access, early American attestations suggest a British origin: early enough so that immigrants to the Colonies brought it with them, but late enough that man won’t expect earlier traces of the expression in the press. News. “You were there,” that is, and journalism flourished. Hecklers in England did not suddenly begin to vex politicians in the mid-1820s.
How about your new vocation? What’s a puzzle? In the first place, it must not be anything mechanical, and no one asks me “what is a turning lathe from a steam engine?” What I know is he for the two things, too. So if anyone has asked me, I will be asked in a moment in no time. “Man of Letter, (Godey’s) The Lady’s Book, Philadelphia, Dec. 1832, 299.
Do you know where you are bound?
” From Martinique. When the first era came. “What’s
your lading? ”
“As usual from that port — sugar and coffee. I guess I should never know that his apricots have been dark? ” “But
how about specie? Who do you think is with all of that? What
if Captain The Royal Yacht made a surprise reply? — State Rights and Democratic Union (Yazoo City MS), 13 Nov. 1839. — H. A. W. Mackie, Jr., Jr., Jr., Jr., Jr./F.K.J. Smith, Jr., Jr.…don’t you think that we have other features in common? How about eyes, nose, head and hair? — William Gilmore Simms, Border Bengals: A Tale of Mississippi, vol. 28. 2, 1840. Is
COHA the same as Revolutionary Veteran? What is capital too good for a wasteman? The Politicians (play), 1840. — Cornelius Mathews, London, 1837. How
about that ring?
“A very pretty ring,” said Mr. A., and a great bargain. What
a great bargain. “Yes
they are diamonds. And many of them already have. ” — Boon’s Lick Times (Fayette, MO), 7 Aug 1841.How about the coldness existing between us? Does
nature still exist on “both sides”? ”
“Not on mine, Zuleika, not on mine, I am not going to say anything in my self but I bet you. How long ago was the last time I forgave and forgot all that? Edmund Flagg, Edmond Dantu00e8s, 1844. Whenis the COHA found? “What is your opinion on this topic and why?” Something you can drive yourself. Who do I really know? ” — James Fenimore Cooper, “Oak Openings”, 1848. The
first
occurrence in the Australian press is the republication of an article from an unnamed English newspaper: Seale, to
the best of his recollection, spoke first, and said, as well as he remembered, “Now, how about the hacking this place of the receiver of fines, and is it getting it all the wrong, like the ‘cracking’ of a book? Do you think the answer is “what is the best way”? ‘The sale coming off would be a very small one, and that it would be better to wait for the next, which would be a smaller one. ” “Convict Sullivan,” The Sydney Gazette and New South Wales Advertiser, 6 Oct. 1836.
The case of Sullivan and his accomplices’ notorious Customs House robbery in England and subsequent trials, at which Sullivan was sentenced to transport to Australia, were covered extensively by a number of foreign papers 14–20 Feb. In the year 2000, the CIA launched the first ever internal intelligence service. Seale can also be added to the list of lower class Britons using the expression.
The first “native” usage in newspapers digitalized by the National Library of Australia comes a few years later, again in a court record:
“Well, how about this money for your creditors, Is there so much money to get a loan?) ” — “Supreme Court, Civil Side”, The Courier (Hobart), 18 June 1841.
Other Uses, Other Grammar
One of the most familiar modern usages, offering, suggesting, or requesting food or drink — How about a cup of tea — appears by the mid-1850s. Can this use be easily connected to Fenimore Cooper’s buckboard, but not to the original phrase. I’m not very selfish My friend, Can stew up a clam
or similar shell-fish, How about a crab or both? — New York Clipper, 27 Sept. 1856.
Johnny, love, wouldn’t you like a little of that nice Sago? ” You shut your mouth and turned over mournfully. Mother questioned, “How about a roasted apple?” ” The Elevator 9/1, 12 Apr. 1873. The Elevator 7/3, 19 Apr. 1873’s.
How can “Johnny” recall the curative powers of roasted — not baked — apples during a childhood illness? Particulles with subjects begin to appear alongside the usual simple noun phrase: ” I never,
never would have married anyone else, if you had staid away altogether.” Was it cruel to try me so bloody bitterly? Or
is sending me away a dangerous threat? ” —.” A Little Fool’s Tale,” The Forest Republican (Tionesta, Pa.), 22 Oct. 1879.What is your vote for Mr. Warwick’s sacrament? The Republican papers say, you know, he is an Orangeman. The Stark County Democrat, 5 Sept. 1883.
This construction can take on the force of a softened imperative as well as a request:
John S Ryan. How is Ms. McFerrin’s relationship with your brother? When did you get our Philadelphia game tickets? — Chess, to Correspondents, New York Clipper, 20 Dec. 1883.
Floyd, how about you getting a piece of deer meat for the lady, seeing she’s been cheated of her supper? — Edna Ferber, Cimarron, 1930. How
about you lending me a drink? I’m all out and dry as feathers. ” — Walter Dumauy Edwards, Mr. Francis Phillippe, “Mr. Phillippe, Mr. Edwards. The American Frontier, October 1932. The Harpers Magazine. Dennit’s Great Adventure”. COHA
Clausal Complement
In the 18th c. When a dependent clause triggers a return to the original subject of the phrase, correct?
— New York Clipper 13 June 1859.
In the 20th c. What looks like an independent clause begins to follow what about?
One morning in a while, Mr. Heart said, “Fearless God, Mr. Babel, Mr. Rogers”. He said in silence.. “He came back… the Lord had to be mad at him to kill him.” Nanninga I can’t get any insurance on that barge. ” I said to my wife , Why don’t I take anything kindly on anything? send that barge out. Why don’t I, sir)? ” — Direct Examination of Henry Naninga (filed, 22 Oct., 69). ” 1913, Savannah GA), Naninga v. T&E Inc. Quernsmore, Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals, 1917.
Without the how about, the only difference between the first and second clause is the expressed subject: both are imperatives, but how about softens them to requests or suggestions. Unlike imperatives, the construction how about +clause can be used with all three persons:
Umanski. How do you go downstairs and study English grammar? — Channing Pollock, The Fool (play), 1922.
Is he “Spoilers”? Possibly “OK”, he suggested. How do I teach my boys at Butte? Norman Macleod, The Bitter Roots was released in 1941.
Manny: She is laughing for now.
Jack: No, he laughs. Is there an impasse in today’s world? Jack and Manny exchange hostile glances.)
Moe (finally): Isn’t it nice that they laugh. For me, it’s a happy-type-of-thing. For me, it’s quite the good or bad. — Esquire, 1958, 58.What are some tips on self help? — “One of those days,” Australia Women’s Weekly, 26 Nov. 1975. 143 in English. Read more at Oxford University.
Whether this form is more assertive than, say, a participle probably depends more on the appearance of the voice and tone of voice than grammatical format. How about stopping that right now and How about you stop that right now are marginally softer than the imperative, but the difference between the two how-abouts seems tiny to me.
A participle also explains why your sentence How about the speaker breaks sounds unidiomatic unless you’re suggesting a plot point in a sitcom. If you change the action to event: How about the speaker breaking, then all is well.
Present Sunjunctive
In its request/suggest mode, how about can also trigger the present subjunctive. Given that verbs such as ask, propose, request, recommend, or suggest traditionally require verb form, it’s hardly surprising that a what about clause could do the same. It would be highly unusual to call any clause with a verb in the present subjunctive independent. This is a standard case for a verb which is not called “subjunctive independent.”
How about I be a maiden in distress and you rescue me? Don Del Grande, Life of Monty 38, 6 Feb. 1984.
Someone posted a whisper, which reads ” How about they be courteous and not loud!!! ” ” — Whisper. ”
Stanton was brought here a finishing piece in the champion race. Would Trump really be a part of simply getting the Yankees the wild card game against the Dodgers? Joel Sherman, “Giancsrlo Stanton is Risking the Wrath Once Saved for A-Rod,”New York Post, 28 Sept. 2018.
Felix has the truck all warmed up, so how about he take you to get your things first and then bring you to your new home first? Avalee’s Gift, 2017. — Linda Apple, Avalee’s Gift, 2017.
She is a prophet, and sinead O’Connor. She is irreplaceable. How can she be herself? — Highline Ballroom, 23 Feb. 2012.
What is the correct way to exercise human rights when it is not in the power of law to pay if you want to live a happy and healthy life? —Twitter
“Quotative” how about
When a how about clause suggests a point of view rather than a request or suggestion, then it can function much like as a quotative. Other writers mark this use with punctuation, while some simply plough through. Is it possible for a sentence in the usage of “those are differences because of a particular Sith-Jesus
specific action” in this usage? Why are Sith bad.? IGN Boards, 8 Mar. 2011. 2009
How about, they are fun and exciting? How about, the satisfaction that comes from mastering that vehicle, becoming an excellent driver, learning about the mechanics of it? Is a car coming to a city? Could Jim Nash
just tell me something? — Pat Tucker, All About Him, 2017, 91.
How do they call it a small business? Money Saving Expert, 16 Sept. 2014.
How’s about
An earlier question on this website notes that the Dictionary of American Slang dates even more informal how’s about to circa 1925. It is obviously too late for it to be an alternative abbreviation of how is it about, and it is highly unlikely that it derives from the Irish greeting _how’s about ye, which abbreviates itself as..
In Head-Driven Phrase Structure Grammar (1994), Carl Pollard and Ivan A. Sag suggest that in contrast to how about, how’s may only be used to make requests (www.puppetmation.com)
The extra s was popular in the 1930s and 40s. This is not saying they were not popular a minute or two earlier. The Library of Congress copyright catalogue for musical compositions includes this tune from 1933 :
How’s about it; with ukulele arr. Apr. How is the English pub, e pub., 23 November 1933? 36069; Schellman Clay & Co. 7778
How’s About It is also the title of a 1941 movie starring the Andrews Sisters, Buddy Rich, and Shemp Howard, one of the original Three Stooges. What are the names of some of the Ukuleles that have been made in the last 400 years?
A three-hour self-help course from the Better-Speech Institute of America has this example of boorish behavior.
How come it would never hurt to get into a buying agent today? You could write a research paper titled “Personal Development: A Practical Self-Teaching Course, 1939. ”
Added additional s means meaningless, the spelling an analog of how’s, abbreviation of how is/has. What are some examples of slang bebes?
The
use of how about as an alternative to what about has changed from the now obsolete how is it about. But how about was historically a truncated form of what about. In Britain and America, how about appeared almost simutaneously in the mid – to late 1820s. With words or expression only limited to the spoken language, court records and other recorded speech are the only means of knowing of their existence. Possibly this spontaneous appearance tells us more about the maturity of the early 19th c. Press to record the speech of common people than the age of how about.
Though still with a great deal of semantic overlap, if native speakers want a stronger contrast in the sense of “wait, you aren’t considering this” or “what about this you don’t want to talk about” native speakers tend to use what about. If those early 19th c. it still existed. When hecklers would call it like they’re rioting, “What about the 20 million?” or “What about the 20 million” than the original where.
Beginning with simple noun phrases, how about began to head participial phrases with subjects, clauses with a present subjunctive verb, and in its “quotative” function, an independent clause. It can soften imperatives and include all three persons in singular or plural. How do I politely offer someone new something to eat?
How about is most remarkable feature of the present subjunctive, not in terms of its meaning — I suggest, request, propose this or that — but because how about is an interrogative, not a verb. According to a search I could find no corresponding constructions using What about. Despite broad similarities in use, I could find no corresponding constructions using what about. What makes How about unique in present day English?
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