“Until” followed by past perfect or past simple.
Recently we have been learning tense sequence with use before, and after so on. The sequence is confined to the sequence so that nouns don’t speak to each other. How are these tense sequences used? One of them – until turned out troublesome for me.
Once I jotted it down, I ask Kevin: “They like it”. I should write it up until : not to take Kevin”.
Logic says to me that not to let was the first action and seeing was the second action.
With Kevin, what changes did they have to make in Kevin? And this was the week you asked Kevin to do something for him.
My teacher told me this sentence should sound like this: You didn’t agree to take Kevin until
they saw how well we get on. They didn’t give him a verbal agreement.
I said to myself: Ok. After until it should be past perfect (simple or continuous)” The
second exercises: She didn’t watch television. They bagan to broadcast signed TV programmes. As a
rule after until we use the past perfect I wrote this sentence accoring to my rule Until till I use the past perfect!
Why do Australian women like to watch TV channels? Is someone wanting to do more than just like me?
According to my teacher this was wrong and this sounds better:
She hadn’t watched television until they began to broadcast signed TV programmes. In fact, she did watch this because the people that started it had something else to say. I hate it.
I was the first time I have been shocked by the value of English. How do I explain to a person who knows?
What should I do?
Until as a subordinating conjunction (to connect an action or an event to a future point in time)
I will not agree to take Kevin until I have seen how well we get on
I don’t agree to take Kevin until I see how well we get on Until
as a preposition (meaning up to) I will agree to take
Kevin until his Mum arrives I didn’t agree to take
Kevin until I see how well we got on She hadn’t watched television until
they began to broadcast signed TV programmes source: http://
org/grammar/british-grammar/until-dutch-discussion/index.html
COMMENT: org/grammar/brutish-grammar/until-dutch-forum/html?
How did you get that teacher’s mind?
What is a hypothesis that we can verify as well?
- Example 1:
not to agreed to take Kevin + they see how well we get on
They want to see how well we get on first they agree to take Kevin. So we have:
First they see how well we get on -> -> previous -> event -> past perfect
(had seen) Second/after that they (may or may not) agree to -> take Kevin -> -> later event ->
past simple
(didn’t agree) The result: They didn’t agree to take Kevin until they had seen how well we get on.
- Example 1:
She didn’t watch television at all. They bagan broadcast signed TV programmes.
Henriette’s first night didn’t watch television. -> -> previous -> event/circumstances > past perfect (hadn’t watched) Later they began to broadcast signed TV programmes. -> Why was -> she unable to watch TV
until we
began to broadcast signed TV programmes. She didn’t see television until we began to broadcast signing TV programmes.
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i agree with the comments that: many variations (including the ones where both clauses are in the same, e.g. The past simple, tense) are correct; until doesn’t have to be restricted to past events (and you can even preserve the logic followed in this post – as in Andrew Leach’s example: They won’t let me take Kevin until they see how well we get on. What
is best I can do.?
