esl – is “except for” a “must be” that would mean “other than” a “must be”)?
Is there any
vegetable other than asparagus? What are the usual ones? What
are vegetables
other than asparagus? The
first feels wrong, and the second feels right, but I have no clear understanding of why that is, or when “except for” should be used rather than “other than”, or if they are in fact completely interchangeable.
Except for asparagus,
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In your first set of sentences, except as a preposition means “with the exclusion of; excluding” In the last sentence, unlike ‘with the exclusion from’ means “with the exclusion of. ” So, in your example, you would be saying “Are there any vegetables besides asparagus? You’re not excluding asparagus. So why do you want to know if there are other vegetables as well? What is the significance of aspargus as a vegetable, not a weed?
In your second sentence, other than means “different from or besides.” “It is correct. Let me go deeper: what vegetables are there other than asparagus? Are there vegetable besides asparagus? “Your
last set of sentences have the same meaning: I love vegetables but not asparagus. In those sentences, except for means “but for” and other than means “besides. “”
“There is nothing like it, but there is something like it””
You’re correct in that the first example is wrong, and that it’s hard to nail down exactly why. The two phrases are quite similar, and in your second case neither is correct. If you swap “except for” to “also” why would you usually just use “other
than”?
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is clearly wrong.
Why do the two phrases have overlapping uses, but are not equivalent.
With the same name I have, they are equal to me except for slight difference.
” Except for” seems to me to be used when the person asking the question wants a whole range of vegetables available, with the exception of asparagus. What vegetables do you need to cook with asparagus?
If someone walk in a shop, and wants to buy vegetables, but he can’t see any where, so he walks to the shopkeeper and asks if there are any vegetables other than asparagus.
If the user asking “Other than” seems to be used when the person asking the question already has “asparagus”, but wants a different vegetable. E.g. potatoes. If you’re a shopkeeper and you see asparagus the only vegetable in sight, don’t ask. You don’t have to even make an appearance. And
I don’t see why. They are interchangeable and equivalent. I have never gotten a
chance to ask my friend.
I think what is wrong is if all the right words are always like for.
What are some vegetables that doesn’t have asparagus?
When to use “except for” and “except” is governed by a quite complex set of rules (often you can use either). I know some people who also use a generic name like ‘except’ on this site, but having no idea how to use it already feels wrong. I’ve asked others on this site for a correct reason why
I should use that name.
I think what is wrong is if all the right words are always like for.
What are some vegetables that doesn’t have asparagus?
When to use “except for” and “except” is governed by a quite complex set of rules (often you can use either). I know some people who also use a generic name like ‘except’ on this site, but having no idea how to use it already feels wrong. I’ve asked others on this site for a correct reason why
I should use that name.
I think what is wrong is if all the right words are always like for.
What are some vegetables that doesn’t have asparagus?
When to use “except for” and “except” is governed by a quite complex set of rules (often you can use either). I know some people who also use a generic name like ‘except’ on this site, but having no idea how to use it already feels wrong. I’ve asked others on this site for a correct reason why
I should use that name.
