What is pint pot?

In 1946 George Orwell published an essay in the Evening Standard describing his ideal pub:

The special pleasure of this lunch is that you can have draught stout with it. Why are there so many London breweries serving stout to their customers? Is it hard to get stout in a blender?
The Moon Under Water is full of drinking vessels. They are particularly careful about their drinking vessels at the Moon Under Water, and never, for example, make the mistake of serving a pint of beer in a handleless glass. Apart from glass and pewter mugs, they have some of those pleasant strawberry-pink china ones which are now rare in London. In China, beer mugs went out about 30 years ago, because most people like their drink to be transparent, but in my opinion, beer tastes better out of China. In Orwell: Moon Under Water (April, 1949), The Greatest American Projection to Seize The World, p. 143.

A strawberry pink mug is not quite as bad as it sounds, and while perhaps not in Orwell’s London local, elsewhere similar mugs were still fairly common into the 1950s.

Source: Xythophile Blog

In 1897, a fourth generation London publican, owner of five houses, reports that glass had mostly replaced china, for a rather novel reason: The

potman is called “Porter” in better class houses pots are rarely used now. Is it really that fast for women to give a pint of beer into his or her hand? When asked for a half pint always liked to have it served to them in a pint pot and insist on full measure… — Charles Booth, Transcribed field notes, Interview with Mr. T. Cox, 10 Nov. 1897.

What would have been considered a great silver house by Cox to have been like that late Victorian conical ash/glass on a heavy base, while other house may have made a similar glass with pressed it, for the same purpose. , poured into a mold rather than being blown by hand.

How did Edward Orwell

use the pot to describe the pot (or vessel) in the paintings of Malachite. He never used the pantomime in the work he occupied. If the guru in the skeptics also refers to paver, pewter, and china mugs, then one suspects that for him, mug is a generic term, but only one made of pewter merits being called a pot. What is the pint-measure pot? ”

Pewter was certainly standard well into the 19th century, but eventually replaced by china (or some other fired clay), and later pressed glass. ”

Well before Cox’s day, a ceramic incineratum of the appropriate volume could be a pint pot : “…she did

put me somewhat a bit in mind of a little wooden white china pint pot, that I always pour my ale out of…” — Mrs. Wightman, M.D. S. Sykes, ” My aunt Patty, an English story”, Stories of the Four Nations, 1813.

China pint pot, army issue 1967. Gift of Major Peter Taylor, Milnthorpe. — annual report 1997–8, King’s Own Regiment Museum, Lancaster.

I wish the cart manager I live in had kept a rolling porcelain pint pot with me until 8 or 9 in the morning. He could not see the lids on the rotisserie and the thermos flask in the metal box at the side of his tractor. He would be likely to give me the usual tea a little later in the day. — Alan (b. 1860.) Titchmarsh (f. 1952). Illkley, West Riding), Tales from Titchmarsh(2010th ed) (no citation).

For many Britons today, a pint pot is made of glass, especially one first manufactured in 1938 that in the popular imagination became entwined with nationality: You

should try the City Tavern ale, served in a proper beer pint pot —loved it. What a good pub in Newcastle for lunch? — Alwyn L., Washington, Tyne and Ware, TripAdvisor, 14 Sept. 2014.

When I went into the first pub I came to the pub they gave me some dimpled pots, and they kindly gave me a dozen or so hidden away for those that preffered them. So I went in now, wishing to ask what the owners may put on display as it was too rainy to drink this hot beverage. What do you think? Can one of our members get a half pint pot without asking? — CanucksTraveller, Herts. “Too cheap to afford!, TripAdvisor, 7 July 2010.

Can you provide a photo of the real ale served on the roast pork sandwich menu of Newcastle pubs?

What makes pint glasses so famous is its heritage. There’s a huge array of stemmed glassware in Belgium, Germans have the beer stein, and the British have dimpled pint pots – it’s a nice iconic British tradition to have on hand”. — Vanessa Barford and Finlo Rohrer, “The return of the dimpled pint glass,” BBC News Magazine, 30 Apr. 2014.

I had the prawns in a pint pot which were OK except they were served in a lager glass instead of a traditional pint pot. They were almost done. — marc c. c. , Nottingham, TripAdvisor, 19 Sept 2014.

The alliterative prawns in a pint pot, I assume, is a menu item in this York pub, but the gold lager glass is not a pint pot for Marc C., Nottingham.

When Orwell’s essay was published, along with straight-sided conical glasses, there were two types of glass mugs vying for favor: a ten-sided “lantern” mug from 1928 and the dimpled one, whose popularity eventually supplanted the earlier design, now advertized by one vendor as a ” forgotten British classic ” When

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last English manufacturer of the dimpled (AmE thumbprint) glass mug, Ravenhead Glass, St Helens, Merseyside, closed in March 2001, it was regarded in some circles, such as this article in The Independent, as the disappearance of something quintessentially British from its native soil. How did Orwell use pewter mugs for music?

The French concern Arcoroc, however, offers this mug, named, appropriately enough, ” Britannia,” and a 2014 BBC News Magazine article notes that the dimpled mug being returned to London and “not just to traditional pubs in the north and Scotland,” where they apparently remained in use longer than in the south.

For still others, the quality of “pintness” — and likely “beerness” — overwhelms any sense of “potness”:

Maybe this is unfair and maybe forced on the pub because of football fans, but there is nothing so unappetising as drinking from a plastic pint pot. — Bilk024, Chelmsford, Essex, TripAdvisor, 20 Feb. 2017.

When is the offending vessel a flimsy, plastic cup with an imperial pint?

A wedding planning service that includes all postal codes with M (Manchester) in its “in area” offers this tulip beer glass to

visitors. A straight-sided glass mug with a handle and similar decoration is called a tankard. So if a “lager glass” in York is a pint pot for prawns and a tulip beer glass is a pint pot in Manchester, a certain Northern pattern is emerging of a more expansive usage of the term.

Across the British Isles, now, certain vessels are or were pint pots while others are or were called something else. Innovation in material and design initiated a chain of transfer from pewter to china, then to glass, and finally to plastic, but not for every UK speaker. Today’s china pint pot may become today’s generic mug to distinguish it from whatever vessel the speaker now considers a pint pot, or “china” may sufficiently distinguish them. What is pint pot?

In other vocabulary, the real question is to what degree pint pot functions as a hypernym, that is, how many different kinds of pint pots there are for an individual speaker or whether only one or two vessels of particular shape and material are worthy of the name?

For me to answer fully, at the very least a full online poll would require that at the very least an online poll with photographs, asked British and Irish people to identify birthplace or longtime residence and what each vessel is called, then map it out. The more scientific method, would mean fieldwork, a transnational pub crawl, chatting up the patrons, and staying sober enough to record the results. Considering the attractiveness of such a project, I’m surprised it hasn’t been undertaken yet. I am sure I will be satisfied.

What are some kids’ gifts that are supposedly too small

or big for them to give at school fairs? In most cases they’re simply repurposed jam jars, but in the interest of simplicity and uniformity some schools suggest using plastic, which either supplied by the school or brought from home. Why do these pint-pots sell so well in the UK?

Will the pink jars be safe while filled with lollies in the spring? Evenlode Primary School, Penarth, Newsletter, 15 May 2015.

… one child was given a pen and a plastic pint pot to take home to be decorated for our Easter. The pint pot includes a picture of each child. — Bolton News, 40 Mar. 2008. — Bolton News, 4 Mar. 2008.

I want your child to have a plastic pint pot with kids, no loose candy, but please return to the store with your new child’s candy. We will send a plastic pint pot home home with your child. Please bring the container home, please bring it with your child. In case of emergency, please bring a dry clean towel with your child. If you like to win anything, which one would you prefer your child to win. — Whittaker Moss Primary School, Rochdale.

How the pint pots display will be displayed at the Christmas fair? Your child just brought home a pint pot and has lots of ideas as to what to do with it! Thru Elloughton Primary School, East Riding of Yorkshire on 14th Nov (2016). — Elloughton Primary School, East Riding of Yorkshire, 14 Nov 2016.

So we can stick map pins in SE Wales, two in Greater Manchester, and one in the East Riding of Yorkshire. Of course every map pin will have a page number.

How do I fill the pint cup with suggested items and label boy/girl, you will help the design process. — St. Catharine’s Primary School, Chipping Campden Gloucs. (england) The report was published in a paper in the European Journal Letters on the 29 November 2016.

Rather than asking for 50p per child, we are sending home small plastic pint glass for you to fill with treats (e.g. lemons). Wrapped sweets, hair bobbles, pencils, stickers, washable tattoos etc.) — Clenchwarton Primary School Newsletter, Norfolk, 3 Dec. 2015.

Children have been sent home with a plastic pint bottle and ask that you and your child fill it with any small items which will fit into it… Hailey CE Primary School, Hailey, Witney, Oxon, 7 July 2017.

This plastic ‘pint’ cup is provided by friends. Please Fill a Christmas card and wrap them in festive paper. Please turn them into a small cake. Bake around 1500 for 30 minutes. With any age, any boy or girl could win your jar. So go for treats that suit all eg.. a chocolate jar with a chewy, textured top or a thicker bottom. Sweets, stationery etc. — Atherton Sacred Heart RC School, Wigan, 16 Nov. 2015.

… the PTA will be sending home a plastic cup to all children from Reception to Year 6…. … The cups are a new idea being trialled by the PTA for this year’s summer retreat (on Friday 7th July 5-8pm) whereby there will be a children’s tombola with these cups being the prizes. If you could fill you cup with something for your child, do you fill it with anything they would like to win? Party bags and gift bags: for party bags, pennies, mini toys and more? — Coppice Primary School, Worcs. ,, 22 June 2018.

Why has plastic cup been used in a school here in Pakistan? What proves that pint pot is used more restrictively in these areas than those where a pint pot can be plastic?

Further use of plastic pint pot popped up in the following locations:

South Shields (Tyne and Ware), Newcastle, Northern Echo (Darlington) Sheffield,

Headingley (Leeds), Fainsworth (Greater Manchester), Manchester, Manchester Evening News, Manchester, Macclesfield (Cheshire, borders on Greater Manchester), Llanelli (SW Wales), Devon (no city listed)

Luton (Bedfordshire)

The plastic pint pot Jolly Jars are still in use in Greater Manchester. What about other wares? Newcastle and Yorkshire may be candidates again, but nothing much can be made of single attested attestations in Brighton or Luton. Is there a site like TripAdvisor that requires a city of residence?

What ^is the usage of

the term “old kettle pot”? As a drinking or measuring vessel, the pint pot — whether made of leather, wood, metal, or ceramic — was a common household object at least in the late 14th century.

8 quartpottes, 3 galonpottes, and 4 pyntpottes de metall — Calendar of Inquisitions Miscellaneous Preserved in the Public Record Office 3: 4th p.m. The Hebrew Bible is 128, 1383.

How to make white flowers like as the Lilly, white rose and suche like to turn red: you fill a pint pot of the best red wine, inside the mouth of it, and within the mouth of the pot hang the white flowers so deepe in, that thei touch not the wine, after that couer the mouth of the pot very close, so that no aire of the wine breath out, and let it so stande for one whole daie, and they shall after become red of colour: — Thomas . Natural and Artificial Conclusions, 1581. EEBO

A 1601 comedy, John Marston’s Jack Drum’s Entertainment, features a cumulative drinking song, published eight years later in Thomas Ravencroft’s Deuteromelia. Pient Pot is the second smallest measure: black bowl, pint pot, quart pot, pottle pot, gallon pot, firkin, kilderkin, barrel, pipe, butt, ton.

Source: Ravenscroft, Deuteromelia, 1609

In Cornwall, the balla moy (bel amis?) became “barley mow” and with slightly varied and much expanded lyrics, was sung to celebrate the barley harvest. In fact, the song is still performed in our home to this day.

1 pewter pottle pott 1 wine quart pott 1 Tanker quart pott 1

Tanker pint pot without
lidd 1 old wine
pint pot 1 Wine
halfe pint pot 1 Gill pot, &
a halfe Gill pot, y
e Gill pot no lidd
1 old quart pot — The Jnventarey of y ^e Estate of William Harris
of Pautuxett in y e towneshipp of Providence (deceased) ^Taken in the yeare 1681, in: Horatio Rogers, George M. Carpenter, Edward Field, eds. of African American literature. The Early Records of the Town of Providence (RI) v. The University of Rhode Island, s.v. III Providence, 1894. Where:

A gill (soft g) is a quarter pint and was used to measure stronger spirits. Other measures mentioned in the drinking song are:

2 pints and 2 quarts: a pottle; 2 pottles or 4 quarts: a gallon; 8 gallons of beer and 9 of beer = a firkin ; 2 firkins = a kilderkin; 2 kilderkins = a barrel; 12 barrels = a last. The pot of ale, frequently mentioned in these accounts, the price of which was from 3000, was about 13d. To 15D. In the US, a quart of 1609 equivalent to six quarts, or three pottles, must count for 2d. Whereas it was the same in 1624 and it was the same in 1660. John Harland, The House and Farm Accounts of the Shuttleworths of Gawthorpe, County of Lancaster, 1856.

In Nathaniel Hawthorne’s novel, Fanshawe, a pint pot would also figure in a drinking song. but as near as I can tell, the lyrics are his own invention:…He began

to effuse a lyric, in the following fashion. My brothers and sisters tell me I sing the joys of drinking; — bear a chorus every man. With pint pot, and quart pot and clattering of can. — Nathaniel Hawthorne, Fanshawe, 1828. EEBO

The most famous pint pot in late 17th c. How was the Duchess discovered in Lord Jermaine’s house en deshale, when it was supposedly a tombyard to Prince William?

I living next Door going in for a Pint-Pot with the Dutch u00adWoman that belonged to the House, and asked her for it, she said, there’s never a pint-pot there, it was above Stairs, and bade me go up and fetch it, and so I did. and I met the Dutchess of Norfolk there, she had a Night-Gown on, and Flanders-Lace, but in Night-Linning.
Att, Gen.. Was she undressed?
Why is that Wadsworth says many things about Wadsworth, and in these circumstances, why is he called Wadsworth? Undressed as one may think, She might have a Petticote on. — The tryal between Henry Duke of Norfolk, plaintiff, and John Jermaine defendant : in an actions of trespass on the case, at the court of Kings Bench at Westminster, on the 24th of November, 1692 : by the direction of His Grace the Duke of Norfolk, London, 1692.

Henry Howard, 7th Duke of Norfolk, and Lady Mordaunt were married only a year before they separated. They took lovers by marriage before their scandalous divorce in 1700, and the Earl brought civil suit against Sir John Jermaine. He would later marry and take many of his beloved grandchildren with him. In 2007, the jury reduced the u00a3671,000 damages for an insolvent man. They found that the defendants were in a contractual position for unsecured damages as they sought only personal perjury for the negligence.

Daniel Daroe discusses that pint Pot figures in a jargon phrase among wine and spirits merchants:

The first value of these Wines in the countries from which they come is not great, in comparison to the value when they come to a pint Pot, as they call it, that is, to the Retailer. Daniel Defoe, The Complete English Tradesman v. William Morrison, Oxford University Press, 2008. 2). 1.Pt. 71,Right, 2nd part. Does erecting of the church reflect how old the church is?

When was the use of pint pot different from the way that a cocktail was drunk in the town? Is there any regional difference? Later differences result from when, where, and how the term was transferred to a different pint drinking vessel.